John Phelan President Trump's nominee to be Secretary of the Navy

John Phelan, a businessman with no prior experience in the military or defense policy whom President Donald Trump tapped to be Navy[1] secretary, said Thursday he will lean on his business experience to fulfill Trump's priority of "shipbuilding, shipbuilding, shipbuilding."

Speaking at his confirmation hearing before the Senate Armed Services Committee, Phelan made clear that Trump has an outsized interest in the Navy, saying at least three separate times that the president has already contacted him late at night to complain about rusty ships even though he is not secretary yet.

"Please don't give that to President Trump because I'll get a text at like 1 a.m. in the morning," Phelan said after Sen. Rick Scott, R-Fla., displayed a poster of a rusty guided missile destroyer.

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"It's terrible. I think they should be ashamed. Would you want to go on that ship?" Phelan added about his own reaction to the rust.

Unlike other hearings for Pentagon nominees in the Trump administration, Thursday's hearing was mostly fireworks-free and focused on core service issues, suggesting Phelan will sail to confirmation.

Still, a couple of Democrats pressed Phelan to account for controversial actions by the Trump administration, including the recent firing of Adm. Lisa Franchetti as chief of naval operations[3], a planned mass firing of 5,400 civilian Pentagon employees[4], and reported plans to slash the defense budget[5] by 8% each year for the next five years.

Phelan largely demurred on those issues, arguing he is not privy to decision-making yet since he hasn't been confirmed. But he agreed with Sen. Richard Blumenthal, D-Conn., in general that the military should not be politicized.

"I don't believe politicization should be in the military, and I don't believe those actions were politicization, but I don't know," Phelan said. "Again, I wasn't part of them, and I have not had any discussions around them."

If confirmed, Phelan would be the top civilian in charge of both the Navy and Marine Corps[6], with responsibility for the health and well-being of more than 1 million sailors, Marines, reservists and civilian personnel and managing an annual budget of more than $250 billion.

Phelan's professional background is as an investment banker. He currently serves as chairman of Rugger Management LLC, an investment firm he founded, and he was previously the co-founder and managing partner of MSD Capital, the private investment firm for Michael Dell, founder and CEO of Dell Technologies.

Phelan was a major donor to Trump and Republicans in the 2024 elections. Among other political donations, he contributed $834,600 to Trump's joint fundraising committee in April, and days after the election, on Nov. 10, chipped in another $93,300, Federal Election Commission records show.

His only nexus with military policy has been sitting on the board of a nonprofit organization called Spirit of America, which, according to its website[7], has "an agreement with the Department of Defense that allows U.S. troops to collaborate with us to build goodwill and deliver assistance at scale."

From the outset of the hearing Thursday, Phelan sought to reassure any senators who may be wary of his lack of experience.

"I understand why some may question why a businessman who did not wear the uniform should lead the Navy," he said in his opening statement. "I respect that concern. The Navy and the Marine Corps already possess extraordinary operational expertise within their ranks. My role is to utilize that expertise and strengthen it, to step outside the status quo and take decisive action with a results-oriented approach."

But, rather than see his inexperience as a liability, senators in both parties expressed optimism that bringing in an outsider could help turn around problems the Navy has faced for years, such as shipbuilding programs that run years over schedule and billions of dollars over budget.

"You're a nontraditional appointee for this position, and that can be OK if the tradition is not working," Sen. Tim Kaine, D-Va., told Phelan after highlighting a government watchdog report released the same morning[8] of the hearing that was highly critical of the Navy's shipbuilding and repair efforts. "I think the punch line in this report is the tradition isn't working."

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Stephen Feinberg, President Trump's choice to be deputy secretary of defense

Billionaire businessman Stephen Feinberg, President Donald Trump's pick to be the No. 2 civilian at the Pentagon, faced sharp questions from Democrats on Tuesday about impending mass firings at the Defense Department and the possibility of significant cuts to the defense budget.

Testifying before the Senate Armed Services Committee for his confirmation hearing to be deputy defense secretary, Feinberg leaned on his background in private equity to argue that the Pentagon needs to change how it does business and that he is the man to accomplish that.

"There is great opportunity to improve our cost structure, our efficiency, our operations to really save a lot of money that could be plowed into mission," he said in his opening statement. "This is in my wheelhouse, hopefully."

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But he also provided few specifics about how he would find significant cost savings, declined several times when asked by Democrats to state clearly that Russia invaded Ukraine, and at times mischaracterized actions the administration has already taken.

For example, when asked about announced plans to fire 5,400 civilians from the Pentagon[2], he claimed most of those cuts would come from retirements or others choosing to leave when, in reality, the plan is to fire probationary employees who are within the first couple of years of working for the federal government, recently received a promotion or recently transferred departments.

Still, Feinberg received a strong vote of confidence from the Republican chairman of the committee, as well as other Republicans on the panel, suggesting he will have little trouble being confirmed.

"I think we've seen a display of super competence and intelligence and capability today, and I feel very, very good about the role that you will fill," Chairman Roger Wicker, R-Miss., said at the end of the hearing.

Feinberg is the co-founder and CEO of Cerberus Capital Management, a private equity firm that has invested in defense contractors. The extent of his experience in the public sector is a stint on an intelligence advisory board during Trump's first term.

In nominating Feinberg to be deputy secretary, Trump followed a pattern of elevating businessmen and donors to top Pentagon roles over people with deep national security experience. In addition to Feinberg, nominees with more experience in business than defense include newly confirmed Army Secretary Dan Driscoll[3] and John Phelan, the nominee to be Navy[4] secretary.

While Feinberg has little experience with the military, his investments show an interest in the defense sector. His role at Cerberus includes being managing member of Cerberus Ventures, a venture capital fund reportedly focused on defense investments[5], and he also serves as managing member at RapidFlight, a drone maker, according to his 1,800-page financial disclosure forms[6] filed ahead of his confirmation hearing.

Feinberg also listed several investments in CareerBuilder, a company that merged with Military.com parent company Monster in a 2024 joint venture. He reported total income from those investments of $108,596.

If confirmed as deputy defense secretary, Feinberg would step into a role traditionally seen as the day-to-day manager of the Pentagon while the defense secretary focuses more on overarching strategy. Among the deputy's responsibilities are overseeing the budget process and managing the workforce.

The Trump administration has been slashing the federal workforce in part by firing thousands of employees who are in a probationary status, and the Pentagon announced Friday that it too would be cutting about 5,400 civilian employees as soon as this week. The department said the firings are the first step in reducing its civilian workforce by 5% to 8%.

Pressed Tuesday on those announced cuts, Feinberg's answers evoked those of a CEO announcing layoffs with empty platitudes.

"I believe that every person is significant and these cuts are always hard," he said, before going on to incorrectly describe the cuts as mostly retirements or resignations. "In these kinds of reorganizations, there's always turnover and, without some turnover, you can't become an efficient organization."

The answers frustrated Democrats. Sen. Richard Blumenthal, D-Conn., noted that a high percentage of Pentagon civilians are veterans.

"What I hear you saying, sir, is essentially, 'We don't need you, you're expendable, your life of service is meaningless, and the job you're doing now is going to be roadkill,'" Blumenthal said.

Feinberg was also questioned about reports that Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth has ordered officials throughout the Pentagon and military to find 8% in budget cuts[7] each year for the next five years.

Feinberg said his understanding is that any cuts will be reallocated elsewhere in the defense budget and that officials would start with "low-hanging fruit," such as streamlining acquisition processes.

But pressed on the fact that such "low-hanging fruit" would not account for nearly enough money to make up the 8% cut envisioned by Hegseth, Feinberg struggled to articulate other specific potential cuts.

"In most cases that I've seen, in businesses that need to do better, we always are able to find more cuts than we would have expected without hurting mission," he said.

Tuesday's hearing also comes on the heels of Hegseth firing the top military lawyers[8] for the Air Force[9], Army[10] and Navy. Noting those firings, Democrats repeatedly pressed Feinberg on whether he would refuse to follow illegal orders. He definitively said he would refuse to follow an illegal order, but also that he does not believe Trump or Hegseth would break the law.

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Secretary of the Army Daniel Driscoll

Financier Dan Driscoll, an Iraq War veteran who is close with Vice President JD Vance, has been confirmed by the Senate to be the next Army[1] secretary.

The Senate voted 66-28 on Tuesday to approve Driscoll to be the Army's top civilian, putting a little-known and relatively inexperienced figure in charge of the military's largest branch. Despite Driscoll's lack of leadership experience, he sailed through his confirmation process compared to other Trump administration nominees and garnered some bipartisan support.

Once he is sworn in, Driscoll will lead the Army at a time when all the military branches are scrambling to implement President Donald Trump's executive orders directing federal agencies to eliminate any diversity programs and after Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth has taken steps to remove military officers he described as "roadblocks" to the administration's agenda, including the top military lawyer in the Army.

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While culture wars have consumed the early days of the Trump administration's Pentagon, Driscoll largely avoided those issues during his confirmation hearing[3]. For example, when asked about promotions, Driscoll focused on the Army's bias toward how long a service member has been in a role, rather than lodging complaints about diversity and inclusion that have become standard GOP talking points.

Driscoll, 38, served in the Army from 2007 to 2010 as a cavalry officer with the 10th Mountain Division. He deployed to Iraq in 2009 and left the service as a first lieutenant.

After leaving the Army, Driscoll attended Yale Law School, where he was classmates with Vance. He has since become a political adviser to Vance, including working as an adviser with the transition team prior to Trump's inauguration. During Tuesday's vote, Vance sat with Driscoll in the viewing gallery above the Senate floor and, at the end, chaired the Senate to announce the vote outcome.

Driscoll spent most of his professional career at venture capital and private equity firms. He also ran an unsuccessful campaign for a North Carolina congressional seat in 2020, coming in sixth place in a crowded Republican primary.

"Dan will bring relevant combat experience, a decorated military career, and a proven track record at the highest levels of law and business," Senate Armed Services Committee Chairman Roger Wicker, R-Miss., said on a social media post after Tuesday's vote. "He will keep the Army focused on its mission and help achieve peace through strength."

Beyond the political issues consuming the Pentagon in the early days of the Trump administration, Driscoll will come into the job at a time when the Army is spread thin across missions in Europe, Africa, the Middle East and now the U.S.-Mexico border; has been struggling for year[4]s to provide soldiers with adequate housing and food; and is working to keep up momentum on turning around a slump in recruiting[5].

While 16 Democrats voted in support of Driscoll, others expressed concern about confirming someone with a lack of experience leading a large organization amid the array of challenges facing the Army.

"While I remain dissatisfied by Mr. Driscoll's utter lack of qualifications to lead an organization as big and complex as the Army, I hope, for the sake of our soldiers, that his improved preparation for this hearing is a sign that he takes seriously the incredible responsibility inherent in being secretary of the Army," Sen. Tammy Duckworth, D-Ill., said in a statement late last month after Driscoll's hearing. "We ask our troops to operate at the highest possible level, and it would be an insult to our brave soldiers to confirm someone who does not meet that same standard to lead them."

Duckworth voted against Driscoll on Tuesday, and all 28 "no" votes came from Democrats..

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Secretary of the Army Daniel Driscoll

Financier Dan Driscoll, an Iraq War veteran who is close with Vice President JD Vance, has been confirmed by the Senate to be the next Army[1] secretary.

The Senate voted 66-28 on Tuesday to approve Driscoll to be the Army's top civilian, putting a little-known and relatively inexperienced figure in charge of the military's largest branch. Despite Driscoll's lack of leadership experience, he sailed through his confirmation process compared to other Trump administration nominees and garnered some bipartisan support.

Once he is sworn in, Driscoll will lead the Army at a time when all the military branches are scrambling to implement President Donald Trump's executive orders directing federal agencies to eliminate any diversity programs and after Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth has taken steps to remove military officers he described as "roadblocks" to the administration's agenda, including the top military lawyer in the Army.

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While culture wars have consumed the early days of the Trump administration's Pentagon, Driscoll largely avoided those issues during his confirmation hearing[3]. For example, when asked about promotions, Driscoll focused on the Army's bias toward how long a service member has been in a role, rather than lodging complaints about diversity and inclusion that have become standard GOP talking points.

Driscoll, 38, served in the Army from 2007 to 2010 as a cavalry officer with the 10th Mountain Division. He deployed to Iraq in 2009 and left the service as a first lieutenant.

After leaving the Army, Driscoll attended Yale Law School, where he was classmates with Vance. He has since become a political adviser to Vance, including working as an adviser with the transition team prior to Trump's inauguration. During Tuesday's vote, Vance sat with Driscoll in the viewing gallery above the Senate floor and, at the end, chaired the Senate to announce the vote outcome.

Driscoll spent most of his professional career at venture capital and private equity firms. He also ran an unsuccessful campaign for a North Carolina congressional seat in 2020, coming in sixth place in a crowded Republican primary.

"Dan will bring relevant combat experience, a decorated military career, and a proven track record at the highest levels of law and business," Senate Armed Services Committee Chairman Roger Wicker, R-Miss., said on a social media post after Tuesday's vote. "He will keep the Army focused on its mission and help achieve peace through strength."

Beyond the political issues consuming the Pentagon in the early days of the Trump administration, Driscoll will come into the job at a time when the Army is spread thin across missions in Europe, Africa, the Middle East and now the U.S.-Mexico border; has been struggling for year[4]s to provide soldiers with adequate housing and food; and is working to keep up momentum on turning around a slump in recruiting[5].

While 16 Democrats voted in support of Driscoll, others expressed concern about confirming someone with a lack of experience leading a large organization amid the array of challenges facing the Army.

"While I remain dissatisfied by Mr. Driscoll's utter lack of qualifications to lead an organization as big and complex as the Army, I hope, for the sake of our soldiers, that his improved preparation for this hearing is a sign that he takes seriously the incredible responsibility inherent in being secretary of the Army," Sen. Tammy Duckworth, D-Ill., said in a statement late last month after Driscoll's hearing. "We ask our troops to operate at the highest possible level, and it would be an insult to our brave soldiers to confirm someone who does not meet that same standard to lead them."

Duckworth voted against Driscoll on Tuesday, and all 28 "no" votes came from Democrats..

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